Comic 1579 - Scorpion Group

14th Feb 2018, 12:00 AM
Scorpion Group
Average Rating: 5 (13 votes)
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megados 14th Feb 2018, 12:18 AM edit delete reply
Scene Change!

Re:Alt text, yup it comes across! I kinda thought something like that before I looked at the alt text. I thought British. I think I like Ophelia already! XD

Good dynamic sense of motion through here!
Centcomm 14th Feb 2018, 8:45 AM edit delete reply

thank you!
Deoxy 14th Feb 2018, 11:29 AM edit delete reply
I second that - it came across quite well. Very unexpected, but it that's definitely what I got.
Ictuan 14th Feb 2018, 12:53 AM edit delete reply
The loyal fans of DC need to do more aggressive fundraising to provide Cent and Rose greater incentive to produce more frequent updates and a means to replace other sources of income that get in the way of producing updates.

Come on everyone, become patreons! These guys, er girls, really deserve to reach that magic level of success some of my other favorite web comics have reached where their comics have become a major source of their income.

Otherwise, without more frequent updates, Acantha won't reach her 18th birthday before I'm 80.

EDIT: yes I posted something similar an hour ago on the last page's updates, but few will see that comment.
Centcomm 14th Feb 2018, 8:44 AM edit delete reply

More funds would help- that's for sure. right now this is a full time job that is less than starvation level. especially with the medical crap and all that.
Romfire 14th Feb 2018, 11:37 PM edit delete reply
It's just a thought, but I was wondering if it would pay to make a "Family Friendly" version of D.C.?
While I absolutely hate censorship in any form, I am all for marketing to the widest possible audience. I was thinking that some of these kids have good allowances and big hearts, while having no bills or mortgages to worry about. D.C. is already 90+ fine for almost any age or group. I don't know how much it would cost, or how much work it would be to make a side strip with some minor word changes, a few strategically placed thought balloons and a very few omitted pages, but that would get you past the parental filters and get your fine product out to a wider audience.
On the same note, to those who enjoy the fact that D.C. pushes the boundaries and delivers a very immersive and enjoyable product, please remember that we have to make up for the people who avoid clicking because of the adult content label.
I really haven't done any research or know if it would be profitable, but I have met a couple people who love web comics but never read any with "adult" in the description. That is their preference and far be it from me to try and tell someone what they should prefer (Scary concept).
I am sure one of your loyal fans would love to help on such a project.
Sheela 15th Feb 2018, 12:50 PM edit delete reply

I don't think making it more PG would make a big difference.

However, maybe advertising a bit for it might help ?
So far it's been pretty much only word of mouth, AFAIK.
DLKmusic 15th Feb 2018, 1:08 PM edit delete reply

Hey Romfire, just a thought. Ask your friend who objects to adult comics if it's the Language or the Nudity that they object to.

If they object to the language, that's one thing. but if it's nudity, recommend the story to them. I personally dislike gratuitous nudity, and this comic has very little of that. about the same level as a primetime drama, really. What nudity that is here is actually purposeful (such as Dolly's new body in the tank).

There was a lot more, but the bulk of it got removed with the rebooted pages.

Now, Gratuitous fanservice nudity on the vote incentive page.... that's a different story!
antrik 15th Feb 2018, 1:29 PM edit delete reply
The little bit of nudity that's here certainly doesn't deserve an R rating... But don't forget the rape scenes.
Romfire 15th Feb 2018, 8:06 PM edit delete reply
I don't remember the web site they showed me, but it listed a bunch of web comics. It showed D.C. as having "Adult content"? I think. I know that D.C. is not overly into that kind of thing like some other comics, but the rating scared them off. I think it is a case where some of the really bad comics give the better ones a bad rap.
Ictuan 16th Feb 2018, 8:22 PM edit delete reply
DC always ranks very high on the TWC score so that would seem it is fairly popular. I like that the comic has a balance as an "adult" comic. I've never understood how comics (or any other form of entertainment) with gratuitous violence get a pass, but people freak out over nudity or sex. For crying out loud, maybe if there were more skin and sex and less mindless violence our world would be a happier and safer place.

With that rant out of the way, what if it isn't the nudity that is "problem" with popularity but the intelligent/cerebral nature of Data Chasers? Maybe it takes a special type to really appreciate spending several weeks of low action delve into character development and inter-character relationships. Some people just want a fast paced comic, which DC isn't always.

Personally, I'm very happy with the way DC tells its story although I'm not against a little more skin and maybe a little shipping that is appropriate to the story-line. After all, the human condition does include sex.
megados 16th Feb 2018, 10:06 PM edit delete reply
I have doubts that removing scenes and changing language would do that much to gain readership, but it would likely have a negative impact in other demographics. Even with scene and language changes, the very subject matter, at times, is for mature audiences. People will have to decide for themselves what they will or won't accept. I don't think It needs to be, or should be changed. JM2¢
Ictuan 17th Feb 2018, 12:50 AM edit delete reply
@Megados, I have to agree with you completely on this.

I'm no good at marketing so I don't know how to increase readership. I sometimes think it just boils down to the random luck of the Internet what becomes a big success.

I do think DC would lose something if it tried tame the "adult" nature too much. The "fan service" has usually been fun in a non-gratuitous way. There were a few scenes in New Rome during the takeover of the palace that were quite disturbing, but I thought it was done to drive home the brutality of what Decimus had cultivated, not just for the sake of being gratuitous.

From an artistic stance, I really like Cent's take on the female form. When compared to other 3D comics I follow, here the women are more realistic with less exaggerated proportions. As odd as it sounds for a comic, here women are less caricatures and more real.

Honestly, I would have expected a bigger female fan base for Data Chasers. It is primarily a women driven story line written by women. The women are all strong characters with depth and realness. None of the main women characters are weak "victims", they fight back and those who try to turn them into victims suffer horrible fates. Decimus being being a prime example.

What DC has is something special, any changes to try and broaden its fan base might actually damage what makes it special. It is far better for Cent and Rose to focus on telling the story they want to tell in the way they want to tell it. They shouldn't censor themselves just to broaden the appeal, because it wouldn't be real and the story line would suffer.
Morituri 17th Feb 2018, 7:14 PM edit delete reply
The only thing that would really need to be excised to make it more family-friendly would be the "Nightmare Fuel" scenario involving the rapist/torturer/serial killer who liked using inhibitor collars on his victims.

A few other bits of violence have been things that wouldn't have passed the old Comics Code, but nobody's been worried about the Comics Code for a few decades now.
antrik 18th Feb 2018, 6:57 AM edit delete reply
There was also the Caligula moment; as well as the merry band of rapists that Marcus eliminated.

While the latter was portrayed in a lighter fashion, technically it was the most explicit rape scene...
Oldarmourer 18th Feb 2018, 8:52 PM edit delete reply
I think it's up to the creators of the comic to tell us the story they have to tell the way they need it to be told and if that includes real things like love, hate, nudity, violence and all the other things that go on in a post-apocalyptic world with androids and spalce travel accepted as the norm then that that's what it includes. The last time I checked, there were lots of other comics that are suitable for children, this one is for adults and nobody should try to tell the creators how to create. Personally, the more cheesecake the better so long as it tells the story and isn't completely gratuitous (except for vote incentives, those are voluntary), there's lots of that out there too if that's what you like all the time ;) This is an amazing story that really should be told the way it was designed to be.
Sheela 19th Feb 2018, 1:05 PM edit delete reply

I so agree ... we have enough childrens comics out there, we want some for adults too.
antrik 19th Feb 2018, 1:23 PM edit delete reply
Well, for web comics, I don't think that's actually the case :-)

I totally agree though that trying to make Datachasers kid-friendly wouldn't fly.
CptKerion 14th Feb 2018, 1:33 AM edit delete reply
Alright, I'm gonna hazard some theories on what's going on.
That smoke WAS the gutter camp. The interference is not natural. It is from systems in use by the people who killed the gutters.
My guess: Rangers. We've already established they're much better equipped and prepared than they'd immediately seem to be. I wouldn't be surprised if Logrin put in an appearance.
Centcomm 14th Feb 2018, 8:45 AM edit delete reply

whistles innocently
antrik 14th Feb 2018, 1:37 PM edit delete reply
Wouldn't be a weird coincidence though that they'd strike just when Roma wanted to take care of it?...
Sheela 15th Feb 2018, 12:51 PM edit delete reply

Nah, it's a Murderturd Rave party, and the smoke is from their Giant Bong. :D

Makes them quite mellow .. now they only fight a little .. well .. ok, a lot, but only a little with the rocks.
antrik 15th Feb 2018, 1:31 PM edit delete reply
Well, Ravers are rather known for other substances than pot... Nevertheless, this made me laugh very hard :-)
Sheela 16th Feb 2018, 7:24 AM edit delete reply

I was thinking that the ever angry Murderturds would do the opposite of a human raver ... for them being mellow, would be the greater trip of them all.

Also .... Murderturds with munchies!
antrik 16th Feb 2018, 12:13 PM edit delete reply
It's not about what the "greater" trip is -- it's just that being "mellow" is not exactly conductive to ecstatic dancing...
Sheela 17th Feb 2018, 3:29 AM edit delete reply

We are talking about Murderturds here! >_<
Fairportfan 14th Feb 2018, 1:37 AM edit delete reply

O'Bannon ROad?

Looks/sounds more like "Kennedy Miller Road".
Centcomm 14th Feb 2018, 8:55 AM edit delete reply

hehe i cant remember at the moment if its a real place or not - i think i named it after a place.
Siren 14th Feb 2018, 4:53 AM edit delete reply
I love Ophelia already... Great design.
Centcomm 14th Feb 2018, 8:45 AM edit delete reply

yay!
Sheela 14th Feb 2018, 6:42 AM edit delete reply

Oh dear, Australiens now too ?

They're 'bout to have a giant barbeque, right ?
Centcomm 14th Feb 2018, 8:45 AM edit delete reply

yeah but who brought the shrimp?
mjkj 14th Feb 2018, 11:07 AM edit delete reply

You mean the one giant shrimp?

I guess the gutters got it on the black market...
Ictuan 14th Feb 2018, 1:38 PM edit delete reply
I figured the barbeque would be murderturd ribs. There is an angry one running around right now that is quite distracted by bunny marching around in its stomach pounding on drums. It should be easy to pick off.
antrik 14th Feb 2018, 1:45 PM edit delete reply
"Easy to pick off" and "murderturd" do not really go together ;-)
megados 14th Feb 2018, 3:56 PM edit delete reply
I think he meant to say "easy to piss off"! XD . . . I'd rather have shrimp anyway. :)
antrik 14th Feb 2018, 1:48 PM edit delete reply
@Sheela sounds like the barbecue might already be underway?...
Sheela 15th Feb 2018, 12:53 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, but on the bright side, if they get a Murderturd Rib, then maybe the bunny will finally march out of it's tummy, and leave it alone ... of course, it might get eaten again! :D

By the same Murderturd!

Oh, and you don't want shrimp .. the shrimp are poisonus and full of nasty parasites, certain to give you a real bout of the brown.
megados 15th Feb 2018, 8:47 PM edit delete reply
Bad shrimp? That's disappointing. :/
Sheela 16th Feb 2018, 7:20 AM edit delete reply

It's how they survive in a sea full of mutated creatures and submissive UFO Submarines.
mjkj 14th Feb 2018, 11:06 AM edit delete reply

Oh, getting to gut some gutters... ;)

...and Ophelia looks good - I hope she will have her fill in the upcomig carnage... =P
Ictuan 14th Feb 2018, 1:40 PM edit delete reply
@Rose,

Remember creating a great 3D model like Ophelia takes a lot of hard work. Don't kill her off too quickly!
wright1 14th Feb 2018, 1:29 PM edit delete reply
Great to see another very distinctive Cassian, especially one who regrets not being able to turn Dec into a bug-smear on the windshield of karma.

For that matter, it would make sense that in general the troops assigned to outlaying posts would be rather... individualistic, to use the polite word. Most outlooks would change and erode under those circumstances over time, for the worse unless under a commander who was pretty good at maintaining morale and discipline.
Ictuan 14th Feb 2018, 1:39 PM edit delete reply
There seems to be others in that group who are disappointed with not having had their turn at Dec.
Ebonbolt 15th Feb 2018, 11:54 AM edit delete reply

That may be why they were assigned to such a post.
antrik 15th Feb 2018, 1:33 PM edit delete reply
If that were the case, most (all?) of the Cassians, and probably a lot of the soldiers too, would be patrolling the wastes ;-)
antrik 14th Feb 2018, 1:43 PM edit delete reply
Now that's one sexy outfit for a terminator :-)
DLKmusic 14th Feb 2018, 1:55 PM edit delete reply

This is a foul mood???? She's actually joking around with a human! For a Cassian, this is less "foul mood" and more "Public Relations Officer Mode"!
megados 14th Feb 2018, 3:49 PM edit delete reply
It sounds like they work together a lot. He calls her "Feelie", so I guess they usually have a certain familiarity? I would think the gutters might get less "public relations" and more "foul mood Cassian". :D
DLKmusic 14th Feb 2018, 11:07 PM edit delete reply

Yeah, there's a certain familiarity there, for sure. But I couldn't imagine Malati or Noctis treating a human like that under any circumstance! It's almost like they're (gasp) Friends!

PS. I like her too. and her comrade obviously respects her, he just doesn't feel the need to fear her, cause he knows they're on the same side, and she'll have his back if he needs it.
megados 15th Feb 2018, 12:48 AM edit delete reply
That is an interesting way of looking at it. The Cassians each have their own personality, as near as I can tell. I could imagine, say, Columbina acting that way toward humans most of the time, for instance. Cute and friendly. On the other end of the spectrum there was Nox who hated humans.

As a whole, I like the Cassians. Some more than others, I'll admit. Like you say though, there would be a certain feeling of security knowing a Cassian had your back! :D
Sheela 15th Feb 2018, 12:57 PM edit delete reply

It's certain that the Cassians have been made with a wide variety of molds.

And Noctis is definitely an odd one.
I think Malati would have plenty of people skills ... if she so chose to.
velvetsanity 14th Feb 2018, 5:59 PM edit delete reply

I like her. And the accent came across to me as either Aussie or kiwi, so well done there :)
chk 14th Feb 2018, 6:17 PM edit delete reply

I really like the 'mold marks?' maybe 'circuit boards?' on Ophelia's skin. It looks really high tech, but still mostly human.
Thracecius 14th Feb 2018, 7:01 PM edit delete reply
Yup, she's a keeper!

***reference: Foster's Lager commercial***

https://adland.tv/commercials/fosters-keeper-2001-030-usa

She even has short black hair like Ophelia. ;)

I loved all of those "Australian for beer" commercials they ran here in the US during that time (early 2000's), but that one was definitely a high watermark. :D
Sheela 16th Feb 2018, 7:21 AM edit delete reply

Hah, that moment when your uncertainty is erased, and you know for sure what it is you want.
oldastronomer 15th Feb 2018, 8:49 AM edit delete reply
A road? Interesting. Is this a maintained road, blacktop? Fused sand? Or is it the remains of what used to be a maintained road, from back before time past? Infrastructure takes a LOT of work, as we are all seeing right across the world today. What's the state of things in the datachasers universe?
Sheela 16th Feb 2018, 7:23 AM edit delete reply

With robotics, maintaining roads would be relatively simple .. it is just tar and rocks, after all.

Heck, as long as you could supply the robots with enough energy, they could even do the quarrying 'n' everything.
Mister Black 16th Feb 2018, 9:32 AM edit delete reply

"With robotics, maintaining roads would be relatively simple .. it is just tar and rocks, after all."

Actually, modern roads are anything *but* 'just tar and rocks'. Underneath the blacktop or concrete surface you can see, there's a fairly elaborate drainage system, a supporting layer of gravel and compacted soil, and built-in expansion joints to keep the pavement from warping or cracking under heat. All of that requires regular maintenance. Roads are rather like Transformers...there's more there than meets the eye. The fact that there's a recognizable road at all means either it was *very* well built (and lucky) back in The Day, or that somebody is very well off, and investing heavily in transportation.
guest 16th Feb 2018, 12:06 PM edit delete reply
,, GASP .. Mr. Black is alive.!!!
also your "just tar an rocks" black top road wood look like 3 miles of bad road an a war zone,, after one season ,, .. heat would cause the tar to run,, leaving the rock.. an the cold would cause pot holes...
Sheela 17th Feb 2018, 3:43 AM edit delete reply

Ok, if you want to make a super highway, then yes you need all of that fancy stuff.
But if you just want a decent road, and have machines to service it, say 2-3 times a year, you can make a decent enough road out of dirt and rocks alone.
That said, there are Roman roads, still knocking about, so who knows how good roads in the future will be ?

I do agree with Mr Blacks conclusion though, either those roads are ridiculously overbuilt, or someone is spending resources on maintaining them.
Morituri 17th Feb 2018, 7:07 PM edit delete reply
@Sheela: The Roman roads are paved with big flat rocks. Mostly hexagonal ones. That sort of provides its own expansion joints at the crevices between, and rocks, all told, are pretty durable things.

But unless you made a road out of BIG flat rocks - like, twenty or thirty tons each - it wouldn't hold up to traffic as massive as the APC we're seeing on it.
Ictuan 17th Feb 2018, 10:57 PM edit delete reply
Huge sections of the Alaska Highway are something called chipseal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipseal). Basically it is layers of tar and fine crushed stone. It doesn't last a long time, but it is extremely fast to lay down (e.g. miles per day). We used to joke that 10% of the Alcan was still gravel, just on any given day we never new which 10%. You could go through a several mile section one day that was paved. The next day go back and the entire section would have been torn up and regraded. You'd go back a couple days later and it would be paved again.

In the DC world autonomous highway equipment could easily maintain such a road system in really good condition fairly cost effectively.

It isn't well suited for roads with lots of traffic, but for low traffic rural roads, it can be an ideal balance between expensive asphalt and leaving a road gravel.
The_Leaking_Pen 16th Feb 2018, 10:20 PM edit delete reply
Yes, the aussie came through clear. That said, it amy be because im friends with a few, read stories by several, and edited one on occasion, but the specific tempo and phrasing came through perfectly.
Rashala 17th Feb 2018, 4:04 AM edit delete reply

If those gutters are dumb enough to still be there....man they are in for the worst last day on earth ever.
Johninaustin 18th Feb 2018, 2:23 AM edit delete reply
Armor!! Somebody's drawing Armor! Awesome!

What please, is in the cupola to the right of the main gun?
Oldarmourer 18th Feb 2018, 9:00 PM edit delete reply
laser ? ranging or perhaps higher power as well ?
Ictuan 18th Feb 2018, 9:59 PM edit delete reply
Question about reading comment threads:

Is there an easy way to keep track of when new posts are put in a thread (e.g. how notifications work in most forums)? I'd just love an easier way to stay up with these conversations than having to manually scroll through the entire list of posts trying to find what was posted since the last time I checked in.
megados 18th Feb 2018, 10:37 PM edit delete reply
Yes, if you go to "Comic Profile" the last few comments are shown there in chronological order, with the most recent on top. The comments are shown below the comic's creators and staff. :)
StellarJay 19th Feb 2018, 5:15 AM edit delete reply

I check in every day to vote and to read the new comments. So I can see the comments in context, I just use the find command (ctrl-f) in the browser and look for 18th (for example) to see what was posted that day, reading each comment in turn that way.
chk 20th Feb 2018, 2:25 PM edit delete reply

Very cool StellarJay. I never knew about that.
antrik 20th Feb 2018, 2:37 PM edit delete reply
That's what I do too; but it's still pretty painful, with day changing to consider etc. :-(
megados 20th Feb 2018, 7:48 PM edit delete reply
Painful? To type in 4 characters? I don't understand.
antrik 21st Feb 2018, 2:39 PM edit delete reply
Well, since I'm not typically reading comments exactly at the end of the day, I have to check both for last day's comments that I haven't seen yet, and current ones.

It gets worse when more than one day passed -- especially when looking for new comments on older pages...
xpacetrue 19th Feb 2018, 5:19 PM edit delete reply

Judging by this conversation, it sounds like the troop transport driver has respect for Ophelia. Isn't she a Cassian?

He's not at all dismissive and seems to talk to her like an equal. Does he have respect for Cassians or androids in general? That would be surprising, considering how Romans are supposed to think of them as little more than emotionless clockwork or faux people. Is he an exception? Or, would members of Maxus' Praetorian Guard tend to have a similar respect for them? Does this have to do with having to work along side them on a regular basis or having each other's back?
Tokyo Rose 20th Feb 2018, 8:04 PM edit delete reply

They know each other pretty well, and they've all been stuck out in the sticks for a while. :D
Sheela 21st Feb 2018, 5:33 AM edit delete reply

Familiarity is a powerful thing.
megados 21st Feb 2018, 9:45 AM edit delete reply
It is! You know you can count on someone, good or bad.

Also, good to see Rose out and about!
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