Comic 1621 - Sorry - heres a wip

19th Dec 2018, 11:13 AM
Sorry - heres a wip
Average Rating: 5 (11 votes)

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Centcomm 19th Dec 2018, 11:13 AM edit delete
Sorry about this - i wound up with a giant case of no gud words. I have art done but that even was a pain in the ass. Again i apologize.
Centcomm 20th Dec 2018, 8:58 PM edit delete
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Just_IDD 19th Dec 2018, 11:46 AM edit delete reply
Stranger:"This isn't the droid you're looking for."

Noctis:"We are not looking for a droid."

Stranger:"Well, you should be, droids are useful, but not this one."

Lynn:"See, Acantha you really can get anything here. Even droids you don't want."

Acantha:"That's OK, really. I already have a droid that wont let me get a tattoo, What would this one not let me get?"

Stranger:"Noooo, you don't want this droid!"

Lynn:"What is this some kind of reverse psychology?"
Rigor 19th Dec 2018, 2:15 PM edit delete reply
As much as I like this suggestion for the dialogue, my guess (because the person accompanied by the robot is armed) that the mall decided to provide a security escort of their own, perhaps to protect Acantha from reporters, Android-rights activists, or other relatively-free-society annoyances to which she is not accustomed.
Just_IDD 19th Dec 2018, 2:33 PM edit delete reply
I meant it more as an attempt at writing my own dialogue to see how hard it was. I honestly can't imagine doing dialogue for the whole comic. It would basically suck worse than that little snippet.

As for your comment to their purpose, I think having a strange security robot hanging around would make Noctis feel less safe rather than more safe because it was another variable she had to deal with, for which she has no trusted control over, while already in a strange place. It's something that's being put inside of her perimeter of control that she has no control over and no way to judge its intentions. If it were a human in this position she could at least feel that she has a faster reaction time than the human does. This robot is going to be on par with her and if it were to attack Acantha it would be harder to stop.

Its also going to up their profile way more than them just going to mall and could conceivably precipitate an attack that it was designed nominally to prevent.
megados 19th Dec 2018, 3:29 PM edit delete reply

Honestly, I don't think that robot would stand much of a chance against Noctis. Too many narrow bits that she could easily cut through with her nano-edged power blade. Also remember that she's incredibly fast (likely much faster than the robot), and consider what kind of firepower CentComm had at the ready when she first arrived.
SeanR 19th Dec 2018, 8:56 PM edit delete reply
One, I don't think the woman in blue is armed. That looks like a tablet of some form, that we're seeing edge on; not a barrel.
Two, on the last page I commented on the inadvisability, nay, sheer idiocy, of using your bodyguard for carrying your packages, since doing so interferes with their actual job. This utility bot looks just perfect for hauling a few dozen brightly colored shopping bags.

And, as a bonus, CentCom gets a remote she can listen through. Unless they would rather invite that white angel's puppet to join them, that is.
Rigor 20th Dec 2018, 2:27 PM edit delete reply
Good points, but the mall owners would not care how Noctis feels, only how they would feel if something happened for which they might be held liable.
robnot 24th Dec 2018, 9:40 AM edit delete reply
as a one time "Mall Cop"..the mall does care.! we want them to return. 'they spend big money..' mall assigns one to the VIP, so as to coordinate what an where, to keep crows/fans from mobbing them, an yes,, so the 'liable' is kept to a minimum..
also worked VIP security ,, more of driver/backup,, partner was main muscle..
robnot 24th Dec 2018, 9:45 AM edit delete reply
crows,, grrr crowds ,, i meant crowds..
CptKerion 24th Dec 2018, 4:14 PM edit delete reply
Not gonna lie, being mobbed by crows at a mall is probably as horrifying from my civilian perspective.
Speedy Marsh 22nd Feb 2019, 3:46 AM edit delete reply
Noctis: "These are not the humans you are looking for... Move along."
megados 19th Dec 2018, 11:49 AM edit delete reply

*hugs Centcomm*

It looks great! I can only guess what's happening, and without context it might not be something Noctis would like. But I dunno.

Re: alt text . . . No. Not really. Everyone has times when stuff just doesn't work out right, or they just feel like that. We're here for ya! :)
Some Ed 19th Dec 2018, 12:13 PM edit delete reply
No need to apologize. We all lack the right words sometimes.

And sometimes there's an awkward moment of silence because of it. Just saying, because I do that, even though I already know you know this.
robnot 19th Dec 2018, 1:03 PM edit delete reply
sooo?? this is the scene, right before any thing is said...
it's not like.. a PC sed some thing right before GM.. an threw what the GM was going to say right out the window.!!! ... that never happens...
SeanR 19th Dec 2018, 1:38 PM edit delete reply
All I can think is, it's a good thing this all happens "After The End", because OSHA probably just LOVES that threshold, with its many opportunities to catch a toe.

Housekeeping probably isn't all that thrilled with it, either, considering how hard it probably is to adequately clean between those ribs with anything short of a garden hose.

They do make sense, for a drain or a door, but I'm guessing that passageway has the local nickname of the "High Heel Killer", or perhaps the "Spill Magnet" more than one sense.
CptKerion 23rd Dec 2018, 2:47 PM edit delete reply
So, as a janitor, those are actually large enough what I'd use to clean between them would be a toilet brush. Given that they're constantly wet on the lower portion thanks to that water, it won't be that hard. Just time consuming. More likely, I imaging that have some little robot that does it for them. Algae would be my main concern, and you can solve a lot of that with some plecos (and while you're at it make people really happy because plecos are cool).

Now, I do imagine, given the size of the gaps, they have some sort of extremely high transparency polymer on it. One of those things you have to be looking at under the exact right light to tell is there. Gotta be some futuristic one too, since it's not scuffed to hell (or there is a little buffer robot that hits it every five minutes)
Nomi 19th Dec 2018, 2:36 PM edit delete reply
There's something beautifully badass about that sleek but long blade nestling in Noctis' hair. But where was it when she was in the vehicle? And why is Grandma sitting down and letting them proceed without her?
Oldarmourer 19th Dec 2018, 6:11 PM edit delete reply
I'm guessing the sword has some flexibility to it when it's not 'powered' maybe even collapsible ? or she just had it stuffed between the seat and centre console where I used to put my cane after I had knee surgery, (and still have one there just in case, along with a very heavy snow 'brush' which is a brutally efficient weapon in it's own right and takes up about the same room as a longsword).

In most full sized cars, especially the limousine equivalent a Taylor would be expected to ride in, there's enough room to prop a belt-fed weapon in that space so the sword wouldn't be a problem, my question is "how does she carry it around without giving herself a haircut ?" or is the edge shielded until it's powered up ? if that's a scabbard then even android joints would have a problem drawing it over her shoulder, it's probably a sort of magnetic/velcro/magic thing we don't need to know-release ?

and aren't we supposed to blame Rose not Cent when there's no words ??? even if this scene doesn't really need any to get the idea of a security droid about to have an interesting day across ;)

Maybe a "make your own dialogue" contest would be fun once in awhile, we seem to have some budding script writers raring to go
armorer31 20th Dec 2018, 4:29 AM edit delete reply
No one, never, had a sword in the back : when you try to draw it, you discover your chest and throat. Even a very fast bodyguard like Noctis would not start with such a disadvantage.
But of course, it's so nice with that shining blade on the black dress that who really cares ?
Oldarmourer 20th Dec 2018, 6:54 AM edit delete reply
I'm wagering she doesn't 'draw' it so much as it just unlatches from whatever holds it in place when she grabs the hilt and she might rotate it over her shoulder giving it a lot of extra leverage into an instant guard or thrust position ?
Oldarmourer 20th Dec 2018, 6:56 AM edit delete reply
allowing for low ceilings, of course ;)
robnot 20th Dec 2018, 12:07 PM edit delete reply
@armorer31: wrong.. in history quite a few blades were carried on the back.. i do medieval recreations. (IE: SCA) an carting a claymore on your hip was not possible .. an yes there are a myriad possibilities of quick draw back holsters... because of my smaller size. my long sword is carried on my back,, an it's a shoulder side draw..
armorer31 23rd Dec 2018, 3:50 PM edit delete reply
@robnot : everything I read about HISTORY was that no army were using that way of carrying a sword. Now if you have historical references, please tell me.
I don't doubt you can - eventually with a special scabbard - wear a sword at your back.
robnot 25th Dec 2018, 10:40 AM edit delete reply
ok first lets clarify.. "Carried TO battle." not in battle..
second. look it up your self,, yes 'they' say NOT,, but there are so many pictures of various people carrying swords on the back ,, so i guess ALL of those history pictures are wrong ,, ..
so again, i am 65" inches tall, my long sword is 50" over all.. HOW am i to carry it 'safely' in a crowd (at renfair) on my hip with over 3 feet dragging behind me..
an useless info,, on my hip, still would not be able to draw, cuz blade is longer than arm reach...
robnot 25th Dec 2018, 10:53 AM edit delete reply
oh yes,, lets clarify the sword that was carried on the back.. NO, any sword with a blade length under 30" inches was not carried on the back..
so saying ' swords were not carried on the back.' is technically correct.. but we are not talking about ALL swords.. we are talking about specific swords with a greater length than to carry on the hip comfortably or safely
robnot 25th Dec 2018, 11:26 AM edit delete reply
and again.. look up the blade she is carrying ..
it's called a Odachi/Nodachi.. an they were 'carried' one of two ways.. "On the Back" or sheathed in hand..
megados 20th Dec 2018, 1:04 PM edit delete reply

Everyone pretty much beat me to it, but: One or two hands behind the head, overhand downward strike all in one motion. She could also pivot the flat on her shoulder. Both arguably faster than drawing it and then reversing it's direction to strike.
Some Ed 26th Dec 2018, 12:41 PM edit delete reply
This argument triggered the fond memory of an incident at a SCA meeting a couple decades ago. A new guy made that comment to Tiny. Tiny was a 58" tall man. At this meeting, he was wearing a suit of chain mail, and carrying a 50" sword on his back. Note that his name was only descriptive in one dimension; he weighed around 250 pounds, and looked something like Gimli son of Gloin, except more muscular and less helmet.

Tiny looked around, turned, took two steps, and turned around again. The guy followed him. Tiny said, "No, you stay there, you're too close." He turned, took two steps, and turned again. He looked down, stepped back a couple of inches. "Say that again," he commanded.

"N-" the new guy said, only to find a sword at his throat.

Just because you couldn't do a thing the way you tried doesn't mean nobody could, doing it differently in subtle ways you wouldn't know to notice. Personally, working out the math, I can't figure out how Tiny could draw his sword, let alone that fast. But I saw Tiny draw his sword that fast. The only hint I have to give about how he did it was the scabbard was clearly not strapped to him very tightly, as it flung around a lot.

I do find it interesting when people take a stance asserting that 'nobody ever' did something that people very clearly did, demonstrable simply by the existence of a thing that's uncommon but not rare, such as claymores.
TMLutas 19th Dec 2018, 3:24 PM edit delete reply
My bet is that the mall is run by a former resident of New Roma and has an no Cassians rule that usually just doesn't come up.
Thracecius 19th Dec 2018, 4:25 PM edit delete reply

I know this might come across weird, but it's almost more fun to see the WIP while you take the time to craft the finished product just so I can read everyone's take on what the dialogue *might* be. :D

Try to relax a bit, Centcomm. I know you're frustrated and trying to keep to a schedule, but all that will do is make it harder for you to concentrate. Take a deep breathe (and exhale too, of course - don't need you turning purple after all), set your mind on a positive track for something simple you can accomplish, whether it be making your bed, washing dishes or petting your kitty, and eventually your mind will figure out where you need to go with the comic.

Not every day can be a grand scale empire building day, some days are just meant for rest. :)
Oldarmourer 20th Dec 2018, 6:27 PM edit delete reply
Guessing what's going to happen before it happens seems to be a board tradition here and as you said, it's even better when we have a tantalizing glimpse of the scene with so many possibilities to agonize over (and sneak some ideas in for the creators to maybe use later on), see ? we're helping :)
I, for one, consider it an early xmas present...
CptKerion 23rd Dec 2018, 2:50 PM edit delete reply
I agree. I'm having so much fun picking at every detail trying to figure out what's going on.
DLKmusic 19th Dec 2018, 5:06 PM edit delete reply

Human Girl: "Please don't come any closer to the Robot."
Acantha: "Hhmm, that looks interesting, where did you find it?"
Robot: "Down in Yellow sector! They're all over the place down there! and she cleans up after herself too!"
Gilrandir 21st Dec 2018, 12:01 AM edit delete reply
SALESPERSON: "Ladies! Welcome to Acme Enterprises! We have every kind of product available for the discerning consumer. Please follow Duckworth over to the Special Discounts showcase, if you are interested in some explosive deals."

ATHENA: "I'll just wait here, dears."

NOCTIS: "Does not bode well ..."
DLKmusic 21st Dec 2018, 9:05 PM edit delete reply

Acantha: so... do you have any Gouda?

Saleslady: Sorry, all out of Gouda.

Noctis: Is this Really a cheese shop?

Robot: Of Course it's a Cheese shop!

Athena: Here they go again, I hope they don't blow up the set This time...
Oldarmourer 21st Dec 2018, 5:51 PM edit delete reply
a tennage girl (or boy, for that matter) that cleans up after itself ? This is truly a high-tech futuristic shopping establishment...
Ictuan 19th Dec 2018, 8:35 PM edit delete reply
Cent, you are way better at this than me. I would have created maybe three pages before running out of ideas. You are about 1,620 pages of where I would have ever gotten. So definitely no fail.
mjkj 20th Dec 2018, 2:48 AM edit delete reply

looks great... is wondering if that is an ambush or a greeting comittee... =P

...and no, that does not count as fail...
Lurker314 20th Dec 2018, 3:47 AM edit delete reply
That's a NASTY comment on the mouse-over. I've watched the author in multiple works over the years, and I can say with complete confidence that she absolutely does not suck! Except maybe when she's insulting herself. You need to sit her down and give her a good talking to about how it is important to be nice to people. THEN DELETE THAT MOUSE-OVER. Next, give her some time, maybe a couple of hours, of relaxing "me" time. You'll be glad you did.
Centcomm 21st Dec 2018, 11:39 AM edit delete reply

ok ni changed it. i generally get a bit depressed around this month
Thracecius 21st Dec 2018, 3:02 PM edit delete reply

Does it have anything to do with Seasonal Adjustment Disorder? Or is it more related to memories or personal finances? I'm not expecting you to answer publicly, or at all really, but if there's anything us readers can do to help cheer you up just let us know. We're all humans here (so far as we know...) and we need to stick together, for better or worse. :)
Just_IDD 21st Dec 2018, 8:01 PM edit delete reply
It's SADD, Seasonally Affected Depression Disorder. It is also not Students Against Dumb Driving.

I've found that 10K u of D³ and a natural light clear bulb helps at least take some of the edge off. If you can find a non-LED one, that is even better since it creates a small amount of IR (heat) too.

Also lots of stretching helps too
Oldarmourer 21st Dec 2018, 5:55 PM edit delete reply
Isn't that what the season's for ? To give us a little excuse for a grump without needing the snow to push us into it ? Try being a jolly looking fat(ish) man with a huge white beard around about this time of year then go shopping and have every second person call you 'Santa' or push their kids toward you...then try being Jewish to boot...ah, the memories I've made for other people :)
CptKerion 23rd Dec 2018, 2:56 PM edit delete reply
Oddly, I have a related story to that Oldarmourer.
My uncle, who is a roundish man with a massive, bushy white beard, has embraced being Santa.

And then he lost his right leg, and now has a prosthetic leg.
So he's pirate Santa now, and likes to spin wild tales for the kids of how Santa lost a foot. Which honestly kinda helps kids get used to the idea of people with prosthetic bits.
Oldarmourer 23rd Dec 2018, 4:34 PM edit delete reply
Lost it the night Rudolph came down with rabies ;)

I don't mind the being called 'Santa' so much...I just wonder why people think it's appropriate to make comments on a complete stranger's personal appearance and why they think it's a good habit to instill in their I usually lool for an identifying characteristic of theirs and return the address...I've greeted several 'wicked witches', a few 'Uncle Jed's' and a couple of particularly obnoxious "ferret faced f**kers" all in the spirit received :)
CptKerion 24th Dec 2018, 4:24 PM edit delete reply
I suppose you must live in a rather different part of the country from me. Around here the culture would prevent parents from making the comment, kids will generally initiate with that wide eyed innocence of "is that Santa?", and my uncle will humor them, and because he's an ornery old bastard, make sure the kids learn a new 4+ syllable word to use on their parents.

He always spins a new story about how he lost his leg too. Sometimes I wonder how much of our modern Christmas Mythos was invented by bored bearded men spinning tall tales for children about their life as Santa...
Johninaustin 21st Dec 2018, 1:25 AM edit delete reply
Interesting, Noctis has changed sword styles.
oldastronomer 22nd Dec 2018, 12:31 PM edit delete reply
Have a look at comic 1323 and nearby comics - it shows Noctis's blade very well, and its the same as here. Not sure about other frames, but as a computer construct it would be odd if it changed - barring a computer crash of course (been there lost the teeshirt...).
Seasons Greetings to all in the Datachasers appreciation universe.
Siren 21st Dec 2018, 5:27 PM edit delete reply
No worries, writer's block happens (I know the pain. Literally, right now).

You could just say you're going on Christmas break. ;D
megados 22nd Dec 2018, 10:07 AM edit delete reply

To Cent, Rose, and all those who come to comment and read:

Whatever greeting you prefer, "Merry Christmas", "Happy Holidays", "Happy Hanukkah", "Joyous Festivus", or some other, or even none at all, Here's wishing you a safe and happy one. :D
robnot 22nd Dec 2018, 10:30 AM edit delete reply
i second that.. Joyous whatever..
during this most depressing time of year. IF any of you want Cent, post your depression here an we will gladly 'bat it around' an tell you otherwise.!!
knuut 23rd Dec 2018, 11:11 PM edit delete reply
We are past the solstice. From now on the days get longer!
CptKerion 23rd Dec 2018, 2:41 PM edit delete reply
So, along with the theme of guessing at what is going to be happening.

That is a tablet in [mystery woman with short hair]'s hand, you can just barely see a strip of screen on it.

I believe we've seen similar models of robot before in manual labor roles (I think in Luna Star, albeit an older and more militarized model that gets promptly shredded by the colonel).

and Noctis's stance is, for Noctis, quite relaxed. Slightly ready, you can see if in her shoulders and right hand, but she doesn't see any imminent threats. It's her standard "I am in public and must remain wary" posture I think.
robnot 25th Dec 2018, 11:27 AM edit delete reply
Happy Holidays!!
megados 25th Dec 2018, 4:31 PM edit delete reply

Back at ya, robnot!
Thracecius 26th Dec 2018, 3:31 PM edit delete reply

Funds sent, Centcomm. I hope it helps a little and that you received a little Christmas cheer. :)
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