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Comic 827 - Morals...

2nd May 2013, 11:29 PM
Morals...
Average Rating: 5 (19 votes)

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Centcomm 2nd May 2013, 11:29 PM edit delete
Centcomm
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cattservant 2nd May 2013, 11:37 PM edit delete reply

"They brought this on themselves."

Yes, they had the bad luck of attracting a motivated angel of retribution!

[Interesting and significant that CeCi has any conflict at all...]
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 12:27 AM edit delete reply

remember - Ceci's core personality is diffrent from her angel programming >_<
cattservant 3rd May 2013, 12:49 AM edit delete reply

The degree of that difference is what I find interesting.
Sheela 3rd May 2013, 8:09 AM edit delete reply

Agreed.

But a good solid "Do unto others as they would do to you" would fit well in this scenario.
Antonious 3rd May 2013, 9:09 PM edit delete reply
In addition to the difference between core personality and angel programming there is the fact that her core personality almost certainly uses high adaptation algorithms to facilitate her ability to simply exist in an extremely uncontrolled environment.
cattservant 3rd May 2013, 10:09 PM edit delete reply

@Antonious:
That sounds very interesting. Would you mind elaborating a bit more?
Sheela 3rd May 2013, 10:28 PM edit delete reply

Normally CentComm's angels/black angels are run under her direct supervision - But CeCi is made more autonomous, since CentComm doesn't have direct network contact with her.

So CeCi have a neural net more akin to a regular android, albeit somewhat upgraded. Plus some not-off-the-shelf hardware, and some unusual hardware ... not to mention she probably have some highly illegal hardware as well, I bet. :)
cattservant 4th May 2013, 12:12 AM edit delete reply

Cent-Comm brought CeCi online in 130 seconds as opposed to the usual year.
Seems like she was rolling the dice a bit.

[RE: Illegal hardware; I bet CeCi has a salt shaker tucked away somewhere!]
Sheela 4th May 2013, 7:19 AM edit delete reply

And a coffee maker !!
cattservant 2nd May 2013, 11:42 PM edit delete reply

Is Dolly replacing her clip in Panel 3?
If so, where did she have the extra stashed?
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 12:27 AM edit delete reply

umm yes .. she is..( and honestly I forgot to add her extra clips to her vest .. inside .. >_<
cattservant 3rd May 2013, 12:41 AM edit delete reply

[Decolletage? Very discreet storage!]
plymayer 2nd May 2013, 11:52 PM edit delete reply

Mommy you got some splainning to do.
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 12:27 AM edit delete reply

yesh she does..
lalverson 3rd May 2013, 12:54 AM edit delete reply
Mommy does have some explaining but she's already got a good start. They killed because their opponents would have killed and done other things before during and after. many humans are not like that but there are those that will not listen to reason or logic. A driod will kill only if programed for the task ands them only under certain conditions. Normally functioning robots and Ai would never select that option as it is a waste of resources and other non lethal options are always available.

Humans notoriously do not follow reason or logic. Their programing is far more basic and primal. Where a driod or AI in .1 micro seconds develop 10000 options to a lethal situation and human will generate only two. Depending on the demeanor of the human one will always become the default selection. Predators will always fight, prey will always run.

Neither Dolly or Ceci fully realize they are predators. This isn't a bad thing in the long run as long as the predator learns to control that selection. They both acted as humans under imminent attack would act. Just the perspectives are different. Dolly will select fighting as she has been a protector and has learned the tells from a human about to attack. Like a good human predator she played out the attack in her head so she had a running plan to fight back.

Ceci's was more instinct, but slightly different as she seemed to be one step ahead of her own programming. The subroutines were still pareing down the decision tree while she had made her selection and was force loading applications to fulfil her selection. Like a human needing to load the gun before shooting. I would bet from here she will be ready for the fight at the same time as Mommy. Mommy was ready and she wasn't and she wants mommy to be proud of her...baby..

I know blah blah blah, but I rather like the sound of my own typing.

lalverson
plymayer 3rd May 2013, 1:12 AM edit delete reply

"The subroutines were still pareing down the decision tree while she had made her selection and was force loading applications to fulfil her selection."

I can imagine the pull down options and menus - like Arnie saw inside his cybernetic brain from the original Terminator movie.
plymayer 3rd May 2013, 1:13 AM edit delete reply

Maybe it's because I'm a dad, but I tend to feel for her because of her childlike mental state.
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:10 PM edit delete reply

this is one of my favorite responces so far , the detail is awesome :D i cant respond really to much of it .. spoilers and all that , but thank you..
Rashala 3rd May 2013, 1:36 AM edit delete reply

all this does is make me want to just walk over and hug Ceci and tell her everything is okay. That's she's not evil she did what she had to And clean her up
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:11 PM edit delete reply

hhee :D
Rashala 3rd May 2013, 4:21 PM edit delete reply

Then I would tell her, She will be okay and it's all her mean big sister Centcomm's fault
Centcomm 4th May 2013, 7:40 AM edit delete reply

more than likely it is cents fault..
Rashala 4th May 2013, 6:37 PM edit delete reply

It's ALWAYS Centy's fault.


did you not read the disclaimer when you took the job?
CyberSkull 3rd May 2013, 1:36 AM edit delete reply

You can distract her from the morality by directly invoking her looting interface, then invoke her level up interface. Make sure she picks a good skill!
Sheela 3rd May 2013, 8:08 AM edit delete reply

Ha ha ha, good one.

Offcourse, she can't use the Cod Pieces for anything.
cattservant 3rd May 2013, 11:00 AM edit delete reply

When she gets her gun, she could store an extra clip or two...
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:11 PM edit delete reply

no kidding huh :D
Draginbeard 3rd May 2013, 3:20 AM edit delete reply

I'm hoping this will never be the case, but the minute Ceci inflicts mortal violence upon someone and doesn't feel a twinge of doubt and revulsion, that's the day she becomes truly frightening. And not in a good way.
Sheela 3rd May 2013, 8:08 AM edit delete reply

True that.
Having a conscience is a good thing.
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:12 PM edit delete reply

yes thats why Andriods have the morality framework in the first place :D
Songgu Kwon 3rd May 2013, 4:00 AM edit delete reply

At least she didn't enjoy it the way some of us might enjoy running people over in Grand Theft Auto or cutting down random townspeople in Skyrim.
Sheela 3rd May 2013, 8:32 AM edit delete reply

We never did that !

We Cut people down in GTA and ran them over in Skyrim. :)
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:12 PM edit delete reply

or blow them up in fallout 3 :D
Sheela 3rd May 2013, 5:18 PM edit delete reply

and imploded them in City of Villains ... May it rest in pieces.
velvetsanity 3rd May 2013, 9:21 AM edit delete reply

If poor Ceci were human...she'd likely be having nightmares and flashbacks for a long time...
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:12 PM edit delete reply

yes .. more on that later :D
velvetsanity 3rd May 2013, 7:51 PM edit delete reply

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens ^_^
velvetsanity 4th May 2013, 10:38 PM edit delete reply

it'll definitely be interesting to see how it's handled...for both Ceci *and* Dolly
Dragonrider 3rd May 2013, 9:33 AM edit delete reply

Dragin, that's the day she becomes Kali, at that point it's Goddess help the universe because between them they would be able to wipe out half of humanity.
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:13 PM edit delete reply

hehe :D
KarToon12 3rd May 2013, 11:53 AM edit delete reply

Sorry I didn't comment right away; I've been out for two days.

But all the new pages I caught up on are amazing! And I feel so bad for these two; they only did what they had to do to survive.
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:13 PM edit delete reply

no worrys and welcome back :D
Vidd187 3rd May 2013, 4:20 PM edit delete reply
Poor Ceci shes so cute just like a child. my neice steped on a snail once and started crying and asked me the same question.
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 4:29 PM edit delete reply

yep - thats almost exactly whats happening here as well.. but there is more to it :D
CyberSkull 3rd May 2013, 4:44 PM edit delete reply

"There's nothing wrong with what you did."
"There'sā€¦ not?"
"There's nothing wrong with garroting a man with his own small intestine CeCi."
Centcomm 3rd May 2013, 6:03 PM edit delete reply

haha :D
Sheela 4th May 2013, 7:48 AM edit delete reply

You're allright..
You're allright..
You're allright..
You'r..........

!!!! OMFG !!!!

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Bad Andy ! BAD ANDY !!
THAT'S NOT ALLRIGHT !!

*brainbleach*

o.O
Centcomm 4th May 2013, 7:54 AM edit delete reply

At Sheela :

AHHHHHHUGH!!! thats soo wrong .. but so funny..
Sheela 4th May 2013, 9:50 AM edit delete reply

To be fair though, that's what humans are really afraid of .. an android devoid of any morals at all, going on a rampage.

Also, eating a burger is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you're gonna get. XD
Rashala 4th May 2013, 6:38 PM edit delete reply

*just retreats into Caboos'es Ample empty head.......from that picture*
Dragonrider 4th May 2013, 6:43 PM edit delete reply

NOW we finally know what really happened to the Hamburglar
Sheela 5th May 2013, 5:55 PM edit delete reply

They send cannibalistic hunter androids after people who don't pay for their hamburgers ?

Dang, that's some serious security.
SpaceMonkey 4th May 2013, 2:11 AM edit delete reply

That's what I was noticing! Your expressions are looking consistently great.
Centcomm 4th May 2013, 7:55 AM edit delete reply

aww thank you. I am trying to hard to make sure they are..
Rashala 4th May 2013, 10:06 PM edit delete reply

looking at Ceci so upset...I really wish I could just hug her and make it all better.
Mister Black 5th May 2013, 12:28 AM edit delete reply

Methinks Dolly (and by extension, CentComm) is running into one of the big problems with using 'smart weapons'. If you don't make them smart enough, they aren't worth the effort. If you make them too smart, they start asking questions that really don't have comfortable answers. In the extreme form of the latter, you get a HAL-9000 style problem...not a good thing in an armed and combat-programmed platform.
cattservant 5th May 2013, 10:52 AM edit delete reply

Justice Machines!*



*(When they stop asking questions...)
Dragonrider 5th May 2013, 4:05 PM edit delete reply

Actually in the extreme you would get a weapon that would either kill everything because nothing was free of guilt or due to the inability to sort right from wrong would decide it was malfunctioning, at fault and therefore must cease to function and implode.
Sheela 5th May 2013, 5:56 PM edit delete reply

Or you'd get a mellow fellow who don't want ot hurt people. :)
Marcus Ramesy 5th May 2013, 8:54 PM edit delete reply

Darkstar.... thats all I have to say..
cattservant 5th May 2013, 8:59 PM edit delete reply

The Megara.
Rashala 5th May 2013, 9:33 PM edit delete reply

CEci's a lot more attractive than those ones.....


trust me if she was upholding the law NO one would break it cause it would make her frown
cattservant 5th May 2013, 10:02 PM edit delete reply

All she needs is a sword, a scale and a blind fold!
LooeyQ 10th May 2013, 8:35 AM edit delete reply

Oh man Im behind!!! I got super busy this past week, lol!
mushroomisland 13th May 2013, 7:39 PM edit delete reply

Even so, there's something uncanny about killing in general..Poor ceci
xpacetrue 14th Apr 2014, 2:57 PM edit delete reply

On the previous page someone commented that,
"There is no switch for emotions, no bypass subroutine."

That's probably true for Dolly. But this page seems to suggest Ceci's case is otherwise. It looks like her Black Angel special upgrades, like her extra CPU/voices, can and do switch off some of her emotions. When the bouncer and bartender pulled weapons on Dolly, we saw that Ceci's mods can even bypass her free will if her primary objective (Dolly) is threatened.

Indeed, I doubt the moral codes in a Mil-Sec android is nearly as strict as most androids. They have to be able to injure or kill when necessary and they can't let stuff like emotions interfere with their duty or even self preservation.

But then, it sounds like Black Angels were never intended to have free will, either.
Thomas 18th Apr 2014, 8:44 PM edit delete reply
Woah Dolly, don't just gloss over this. You are forming CeeCee's morals and philosophy right here. Don't slap on a bandaid do it right.
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